Convince Me Of Something: Why Is Bobo So Bad?

I have read a lot of blogs and message boards, and especially after the Michigan State game last week, there seems to be a lot of hate towards Mike Bobo.  I just don’t understand it.  I mean, sure, there are moments where I am thinking “What the heck”, and I have a major problem with his player utilization.  But his overall body of work has been very strong.  UGA scoring offense per season going back as far as I could find (Bobo play calling years bold):

2002: 32.1
2003: 26.5
2004: 27.9
2005: 29.5
2006: 25.2
2007: 32.6
2008: 31.5
2009: 28.9
2010: 32.1
2011: 32.0

Everyone wants to have a scapegoat, but sorry folks, the reasons Georgia has not won a National or SEC Championship the last few years is not Mike Bobo.  The only year since he has taken over the playcalling duties there was a drop off was 2009, but I contend that has as much to do with Joe Cox than anything.  It hasn’t mattered-Matthew Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, A.J. Green or Joe Cox, Washaun Ealey and Michael Bennett; the scoring offense has been stable since he took over. 

Here is your chance to prove your point to me, Bobo haters.  I want you to provide ONE piece of tangible, statistical data to prove Mike Bobo deserves to be fired.  Not this emotional, “he called a run play on 2nd down and long in the first quarter of the 2009 Kentucky game” BS.  I want real, tangible data. 

Corbindawg

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57 Responses to “Convince Me Of Something: Why Is Bobo So Bad?”


  1. 1 Skip smith January 10, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Add in QB develpment and recruiting to your analysis and you have to tip your hat to Coach Bobo. Oh, and it is also important to me he is a DGD.

  2. 2 T Woodruff January 10, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Agree. To your point, every offense in the SEC struggles against the conferences best defenses. Bobby Petrino is hailed as an offensive mastermind. How did that work against LSU and Bama. Bama’s offenes was all field goals (FG Richt anyone) until the game was over. How do these high flying out of conference offenses fair against SEC defenses. Usually not well. Really amazing how well we did considering the dumpster fir at TB.

  3. 3 william January 10, 2012 at 10:55 am

    I’m not a fan of bobos. I do feel your pain on bandwagon haters one week he’s good the next they hate him worst than Florida. The reasoning behind my dislike is from the same stats you gave. Bobo was called on to take over for CMR because CMR was conseritive and predictable. Now after the change to bobo its more of the same couple good years until they figued him out then more of the same not winning the must win games. CMR was more pass oriented while bobo is more run oriented but both just as predictable. Bobo is a great qb coach if he has his entire attention on it and can call some good plays at times just need to use his talents were they fit and imo its not at oc its at qbc. Hope you didn’t find that to whinny or emotional

    • 4 Corbindawg January 10, 2012 at 11:00 am

      It is not whinny or emotional, but again, nothing tangible. I knew the 2 point conversion play we ran in the outback bowl. As soon as we lined up and Mitchell was in motion, I told Ucheedawg exactly what would happen.

      Who cares if it is predictable, or if you know it is coming, if it works?

      • 5 william January 10, 2012 at 11:22 am

        Thats kinda the problem sometimes those plays work but most the time its 3 and out. Like I said he does ok sometimes but if you ever give him a lead is when he turn into the oc nobody likes

  4. 6 ScooBoo January 10, 2012 at 10:59 am

    BDS. Do you remember Bush Derangement Syndrome? We now have Bobo Derangement Syndrome.

  5. 7 Kersh January 10, 2012 at 11:14 am

    I’ve got one good piece of hard, statistical data for you: W-L record.

    • 8 Corbindawg January 10, 2012 at 11:33 am

      When you, for example, score 42 points and still lose to South Carolina, the offense is not the problem. How many times has Georgia lost while scoring 30+? Not the offense’s problem. Try again.

      • 9 TruDawg January 10, 2012 at 12:20 pm

        This year SC game is a bad example to prove Bobo is good. 14 points is directly from the offense turning the ball over and 7 because the offense tackle the returner on the 5 yd. I would credit the offense of giving up 18 points, which says the coach is not preaching to protect the rock. Also, don’t let those statistics fool you, look at points per game aganist tougher teams.

      • 10 william January 10, 2012 at 12:28 pm

        That would be special teams play on the USCe game

      • 11 Scooter Brown January 10, 2012 at 8:37 pm

        Um…… offensive turnovers and poor special teams play?

  6. 12 Wes January 10, 2012 at 11:40 am

    Let me start off by saying I don’t hate Bobo I just don’t believe he is a quality
    OC. He has shown the lack of ability to develop an offensive identity. He can’t move the ball if were backed up inside our 20 and he can’t move the ball when were in the redzone. He calls plays that have never been the teams strength and when something we are doing starts working he gets away from it. I also believe he doesn’t know how to coordinated with his fellow offensive coachs to set up a game plan that works to our teams strengths. Most of our offensive woes will be put on Bobo but I think the real problem is with the offensive staff. The running back issues should rest firmly on Richts shoulders. Lack of depth lack of conditioning
    and lack of a real coach. Under graduate Bryan McClendon is not experienced enough to coach the running backs of a SEC school. An while we have seen improvement from the offensive line I’m not sure Friend is the answer. Here is his experience. West Alabama, Central HS, Gardner Webb, and UAB.Not impressive at all. Yet he is suppose to turn around a soft line and make them into a SEC caliber offensive line. Yea Right! If Georgia is to start winning consistently. It starts with Richt not Bobo. Here’s to a great 2012 Season. GO DAWGS

  7. 14 db January 10, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    How about Murray being 0-9 vs. ranked opponents?

    • 15 Corbindawg January 10, 2012 at 3:34 pm

      How does Murray being 0-9 against ranked teams (which is false, since Auburn was ranked when we shalacked them) have anything to do with Bobo the play caller? How many times has Georgia scored 24, 30+, or 40+ points over the last 5 seasons and still lost?

  8. 16 Mike January 10, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    The problem is it’s not a tangible thing. The stats tell you one thing, but the flow of the game and intensity and consistency just don’t come out from Bobo’s leadership. UGA is loaded with talent, yet we never seem to dominate the game like we should. How many times do you hear about teams looking to hire Bobo away from us? If you’re really good, teams will be looking for you. I just think Bobo is too comfortable where he is – 10 + years at one school, and everybody needs a change.

  9. 17 Hill Dawg January 10, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Corbindawg, I cannot thank you enough for stepping up against the ignorance that is spewed about our OC. It amazes me how people who have never played football on a higher level; never coached beyond Pop Warner; have never seen a college football practice: have no idea that coaches work about 110 hours a week on football for about five months out of each year and sixty or seventy hours a week the rest of the year; don’t know that coaches watch videoes of their team’s practice for hours and hours; and have absolutely no idea what a position coach does (have I said enough yet?); yet, these people will demand that a man with a wife and children be fired because the team he coaches gets beaten by a team that executes better. Folks, half of all teams that play lose. Your watching a game on TV doesn’t qualify you to judge a college coach’s ability to coach, let alone demand that he be fired. Talking to your friends about a football game for 20 minutes does not make you an expert. If you haven’t made a living out of coaching football, you really, really don’t understand the game of football. So, stop pretending that you do. Enjoy it, its a wonderful game. But, leave the hiring and firing to the professionals.

  10. 18 LowDawg January 10, 2012 at 12:41 pm

    Run the numbers again where you seperate our scoring vs. the top tier SEC and out of conference school vs. when we beat New Mexico State by 50. My hunch is that you will see a pattern of diminishing returns when the games REALLY count.
    I would also suggest looking at the scoring averages for teams whose starting QB end up being the NUMBER ONE draft pick in the NFL
    I don’t dislike Bobo, I just think the utilizaton of our skill players is unimaginative and overly conservative. I also dont think he makes in game adjustments as well as his peers — case in point the MSU game. MSU D-line was pinning back its ears on every down and rushing the QB……anyone ever heard of a screen or quick slant to a TE who is suppossed to be pretty good?
    It’s time for an upgrade.

    • 19 Corbindawg January 10, 2012 at 12:51 pm

      1. All teams play powder puff games to pad their stats.

      2. All games in College football under the current system REALLY counts.

      3. Bobo is unimaginative, but again, if it scores points, then it works.

      4. Flow of the game talk is BS. Give me hard numbers. Anything else is just emotional fluff.

      5. The team’s win/loss record shouldn’t be an indicator of how good an OC he is. He can’t help it if the other areas of the team wet their britches.

      • 20 LowDawg January 11, 2012 at 8:28 am

        if your responses are just opinion (which the above are) then why crap on others?
        You said give me facts, THEN RUN THE NUMBERS from above.
        And number 5 is ridiculous. There are times when the defense plays badly and the offense must make up for it and vice versa.

      • 21 Corbindawg January 11, 2012 at 9:03 am

        The burden of proof to disprove my own point does not fall on me. I asked you to change my mind, not the other way around.

        2011- 27 ppg conference scoring average (4th)
        2010-29 ppg conference scoring average (3rd)
        2009-29.3 ppg conference scoring average (T-1)
        2008-26.9 ppg conference scoring average (3)
        2007-28.5 ppg conference scoring average (6)

        Decent numbers. Not blow your mind, but certainly not worth the scorn that is directed his way.

  11. 22 Hill Dawg January 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    CMR HAS THE HIGHEST WINNING PER CENTAGE OF ANY UGA COACH IN HISTORY THAT HAS COACH MORE THAN ONE YEAR!.

  12. 23 Hill Dawg January 10, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    How do you adjust the fatigue level of five large offensive linemen who have to play the entire game without a substitute?

  13. 24 Corbindawg January 10, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Was offense the problem in 2008? No, ladies and gentlemen. It was not.

  14. 25 Corbindawg January 10, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Here is something else that is interesting, dudes:

    In 2011, UGA led the SEC in scoring in losses. In UGA’s 4 losses, they scored 24 ppg. Very interesting.

    In 2008, UGA was 2nd with 27.3 ppg in thier 3 losses. Again, not the offense’s fault there are losses.

    2009 and 2010, Georgia was middle of the pack.

  15. 26 ericdawg January 10, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    I am not a knowledgeable fan in football. What I understand is the offensive scheme of a team no matter how good can be stopped if the defenses can read those schemes based on previous games.

    That is what critics of BOBO seem to be saying. A lot of his failed offensive calls against MSU in the second half seem almost similar if not the same as those failed calls against the second half of the LSU game.

    Better players in the defenses have said time and time again, that when they see an offensive scheme or formation used over and over in the past, they almost certainly can be ready to predict how the play will go and can stop it. That is a point where a lot of fans see the lack of imagination.

    I am just an observer and a fan who follows UGA.

  16. 27 Doddworley January 10, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Don’t care what you do, got to be able to run the ball against good teams. Predictability has nothing to do with it. That’s what is missing from this offense.

  17. 28 Corbindawg January 10, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    I agree you have to run the football, but again, the number one objective of an offense is to score points. 30+ ppg is solid.

  18. 29 fishookdawg January 10, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    My belief is that the offense seems to play not to lose instead of trying to win. They play too conservative most of the time. How many trick plays were used this year? One maybe two. We had four talented tight ends this year and barely used two of them. After being here over 3 years, Murray still has a long way to go to become a constant winner and I’m not sure he ever will because with Bobo & CMR it doesn’t seem to matter what Murray does in a game he’ll never get benched and Murray knows it. I would love to see someone else get the reins at QB with this offense and see what the stats & wins would look like then. Their living and dying with Murray just like LSU did last night with Jefferson. My bet is that there are guys on the defense and probably on offense that would welcome a change at QB. Hopefully next year Bobo will open things up with the right personel on the field (like coach Grantham’s best 11) and keep the pedal to the metal.

    • 30 Corbindawg January 10, 2012 at 4:13 pm

      So becasue we don’t do many trick plays, that is bad? I am sorry, but fishhook, that is a trite and worn out argument. Nothing substantial there. And while I agree I think the the tight ends were under utilized in the passing game, Orson Charles still had as many receptions as the Mitchell and King above him. White and Charles accounted for 9 TD, one more than King.

      http://espn.go.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/61/georgia-bulldogs

      So what if the team didn’t use the tight ends more, if the recievers were catching more balls? Is it worth firing Bobo just because it is perceived that the ball didn’t wind up to Charles as much, when in reality it did?

  19. 32 Erk from the Grave January 10, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    I have been saying for years Bobo is a great recruiter and has an amazing eye for QB talent!! That being said since he took over as OC UGA’s offense is very vanilla at times. Any true dawg fan can tell you what play is about to be ran just on what down and distance it is. The biggest concern for me is you never hear of other programs coming after Bobo

  20. 33 DB January 10, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    You really don’t think UGA could do better? Stats don’t tell the whole story. For every 42 pts. vs. S. Carolina example you give what about the poor offense in the Kentucky game? Think about how different the 1st quarter of the UGA/LSU game was than the 2nd. Came out smoking got a 10-0 lead and then went all conservative. Think about 2010 Auburn game. Came out smoking and jumped to a 21-7 lead then went conservative playing Cam Newton.

    • 34 Go Dawgs January 10, 2012 at 5:38 pm

      The most amazing part of this thread is the readers’ lack of reading comprehension skills. He wants DATA or STATS. He does not want you to say: “well in some games he’s unimaginative.” If you feel the need to say that, he’s asking you to find data that supports that conclusion.

  21. 36 Corbindawg January 10, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @DB:

    Let’s first address the myth of Georgia playing conservative in the LSU game after we got up 10-0.

    http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=313370099&period=0

    Georgia’s next possession: Murray pass complete on first down. The next first down on that drive, Murray is sacked. On third and 14, Murray throws an incompletion.

    Possion #2: Runs by Crowell on 1st and 2nd down, then a sack on 3rd down. Keep in mind, the field position was inside the Georgia 15 and sack put us a the 2, so I think going a little more conservative was acceptable.

    Possesion #3: Pass on 1st down, Pass on 2nd down, Pass on the next 1st down, Pass on thrid down, punt.

    Possession #4: Pass on first down, Pass on Thrid down, Punt.

    Possession #5: Team rush to end half.

    Possession #6: Runs on first and 2nd down, Murray rushes for first down then fumbles.

    Possession #7: Pass on first, 2nd and thrid down. Punt

    Possession #8: Rush on 1st and 2nd down, pass complete on thrid down and long for first down, interception on the next first down pass.

    Possession #9: Pass on first, second and third down. Pass on next first down. Rush on next second down. Sack on thrid and 9.

    Possession #10 (beginning of 4th Quarter, UGA down 28-10): Pass complete on first down, Rush on 2nd down. Pass on first down, Pass on next first down. Pass on 2nd down. Pass on next first down. Pass on next time there is a frist down. Pass on 2nd down, sack. Pass on thrid and long incomplete.

    By the time Georgia got the ball back, it was 35-10 and the ballgame was out of reach. I could go on, but I think I have made my point. 8 pass attempts on first down. No sprint draw plays on 3rd and long. How is passing-throwing on 1st down no less-conservative, especially when the running game was ineffective? Murray threw the ball 40 times, so again, in what world is throwing it 40 times conservative? Georgia got conservative on one possession inside their 15.

    Kentucky game, yes the offense was off I will give you that. Auburn 2010, Georgia scored 31 points, and I don’t care who you play, 31 should be enough to win.

    Guys, all it takes is a Google search. The myth of Bobo going conservative in the second half of the LSU game has been busted.

  22. 37 Hill Dawg January 10, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    DB, what was smoking the first half was our five big offensive linemen. In the second half the same five were burned out. No depth, no substituting. Need more to rotate. They are on the way to UGA.

  23. 38 Hill Dawg January 10, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    Corbindawg, first we got the old “The game has passed him by.” Then it was “his play calling is just too conservative”. Now it is the old ” he’s playing not to lose”. Any predictions as to what the next great buzz phrase might be?

  24. 39 Dawg 39 January 10, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    The Dawgs & Richt are lucky to have a DGD like Bobo as a Recruiter, as a QB Coach, & as their OC.
    If you do not think all of the coaches review game & practice tapes, to not only grade the players but also to grade the coaches, you are out of touch.
    If everyone was not satisfied with Bobo we would find out about it.
    Bobo is not going anywhere so bashing him gets you exactly nothing.
    Either support the program that is not going to change or find another. Meanwhile i rest my opinion on what is obviously Richt’s opinion.That is good enough for me.

  25. 40 derekr ross January 10, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    College football’s offenses have taken over in the past few years. Bobo’s has hit his ceiling.

    And it isn’t all about the points, it’s the certain calls in certain situations that really count.

    Points are a bit misleading sometimes. And rubbing it in against Louisiana Lafayette doesn’t help.

  26. 41 CoachSpurlock January 11, 2012 at 1:19 am

    The number 1 problem facing UGA right now is depth. We badly need depth on the offensive line and at running back. All of the mythical “he went conservative” argument is really the fans’ perception of what happens when your 1-deep OL gets gassed and running backs twist ankles (or get suspended, or end up in the doghouse, etc). In reality what happened in the UK and LSU games was the offense stopped being as productive. There is a a big difference between becoming ineffective due to a lack of depth and being too conservative. We could not run the ball effectively against in the last four games because of a lack of depth at OL and RB. By the time we played those teams, we were playing former walk-ons at RB and hoping our starting 5 OL could last a whole game. They could not. Nobody’s can. In the BCSNCG, you saw two extremely deep teams. That is the product of years of oversigning and “medical redshirts”. Still, is Bama’s offense significantly different from our own schematically? No it is not. They are built to run the ball and pass off of play action just like us. They averaged 40 ppg against everyone but LSU. They couldn’t score a combined 40 points on LSU in 2 games. They became a field goal kicking machine. Is Bama’s offense therefore unimaginative or too predictable? Apparently not. They suffered several injuries during the game, but never missed a beat. That is quality depth my friends. My opinion of the situation is that if we fix the RB and OL depth issue (which we seem to be trying to do), CMB will go from being called “I has a crayon” to being called a genius. Amazing how that works.

  27. 42 Flash January 11, 2012 at 7:05 am

    What about offensive turnovers? How do they compare year to year? Another comparison that may not have stats is opponents starting field position. I know special team contributes to this also but the point here is how much does the offense contribute to bad situations that contribute to the opponent scoring. That seemed to be a pattern Ive noticed in past several years.

  28. 44 GAbred January 11, 2012 at 8:43 am

    Once LSU realized UGA couldn’t run the ball, they pinned their ears back and it was over. Didn’t matter what was called at that point. The dawgs became one dimensional and against that defense that isn’t going to work. Early in the game the threat of run was at least there.

  29. 45 Bill jones January 11, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Agree with the depth argument. UGA’s offense was non-existent for most of the 2nd halves against MSU and LSU. hard to move the ball when your qb is laying on his back the whole half. Fix e depth and running game and Bobo will start looking a lot smarter.

  30. 46 David January 11, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    It doesn’t matter how much you score, it matters how much you score in big games. And honestly it doesn’t matter what you or I think, it matters if he is the BEST OC we could possibly have and the answer is a resounding NO, including I might add Richt as an offensive coach. What matters is what other ADs and opposing coaches think and prepare for. Todd Grantham make a ton of $$ and is in demand because he is an elte DC. Smart, multiple Stoops, Muschamp, Strong, McIlwain, on and on….those guys get hired because everyone in the business knows they are the best coaches. We score points because we out talent teams and score despite the game plan and calling, not BECAUSE of the game plan and strategy. Bobo know a ton of football and is a great recruiter but this offense does not suceed in fulfilling its potential in many games and that is a result of either Bobo or Richt or both but with the takent we have,m we should be putting teams away.

    We had a kid, FROM TAMPA, a top NFL prospect who we needed to come back and we don’t get him the ball but once? Is that an elite coach?? And they use the excuse that we needed him to stay in to block, are you kidding me?? Keep Arthur Lynch in to block if you need to bu move the kid all over the field and get him the ball. That was inexcusable. That is not the best, and UGA and those kids deserve the best!

    Another few examples were SC in 07(12 points) and TN in 07 (14 points) in games that the offense was not prepared and it cost us a chance at the national championship. By the way we only scored 20 points agaisnt Vandy that year. In 08 we stunk against SC again and laid an egg agsint Bama. Pathetic.

    One question, when is the last time you EVER saw a significant wrinkle in our offensive game plan? Alabama won the national championship because they completely changed their offensive strategy and used play action with the TEs and used the pass to open up the run. Genius.

    • 47 Corbindawg January 11, 2012 at 9:37 pm

      The main objective is to score points. And if there was a problem for something 4 years ago, Bobo should have been fired then. Let’s fire him in 2012 for his sins in 2007.

      And Orson Charles had 16% of the teams receiving yards and tied for 2nd in receptions.

    • 48 Corbindawg January 11, 2012 at 9:44 pm

      Do you hold a grudge for 4 years? Yes the offense cost us the South Carolina game and probably a MNC. That was Bobo’s third game as OC.

  31. 49 TexasDawg86 January 11, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    Unfortunately, without wasting a ton of my time… I cannot provide you the actual stats. However, what I can tell you is that if you go back and look at our Time of Possession during seasons with Richt and those with BOBO at the helm, they will vary substantially.

    When our TOP goes up, so does our defense’s time on the field, which leads to them growing much more tired by the 4th quarter. You’ve seen us fall apart in the second half many times, and I would wager that is a major reason why. We relied on our defense entirely this season, and luckily they bailed us out.

    Bobo is all go for the gold, or finish in last place. How many times do we get into 3rd and long, or score on the first play of a drive? Time and time again, he also fails to make any half time adjustments, and exploit what the defense will give us. It’s run Carlton Thomas up the middle… Sigh.

    He’s a great QB coach IMO, and I know he is a great recruiter… but I don’t want him leading our offense anymore. There’s a reason no one else wants to try and hire Mike Bobo away from us.

    • 50 Corbindawg January 11, 2012 at 10:46 pm

      That is interesting. Or it could have to do with Van Hallanger not being good any more.

      I want data, so provide me with TOP stats to change my mind. Sorry Texasdawg, but too many people have come on here and said things that are incorrect like we got conservative vs. LSU or we didn’t use Orson enough this season. I need stats and proof to back up your claim since so many others have been wrong. Until that, I won’t budge.

      • 51 TexasDawg86 January 11, 2012 at 10:50 pm

        Man, I looked, and without digging through every single game we have played with Bobo as our OC… I just can’t get those. However, you might have more time than I.

        I’m telling you though that Mike Bobo will never be an OC at any other school, and if he is… I know their pain.

      • 52 Corbindawg January 11, 2012 at 11:36 pm

        Oh come on and have some fun. Open an excel spreadsheet and ESPN.com box scores, cascade the windows and go to town. With a high speed internet connection I am thinking 30 minutes. Or cfbstats.com might have an average of time of possession.
        I am telling you how to make your point! But TOP is not as important scoring points.

        Orson was first team all SEC tight end and was tied for second in receptions this season.

      • 53 Corbindawg January 11, 2012 at 11:39 pm

        If you don’t provide something to back up your claim, then it is just empty assertions. Not saying I don’t trust you, but there have been a lot of empty assertions on this thread and you can’t believe everything someone tells you unless you can back it up.

      • 54 TexasDawg86 January 11, 2012 at 10:53 pm

        How can you possibly think that we didn’t underutilize Orson this entire season?

        He was our best offensive weapon on the field this year! He is a mismatch for any LB unlucky enough to cover him, and is as big and strong as any safety in the SEC.

        1 catch for 2 yards… in the second biggest game of the season. I wouldn’t come back if I was him either.

  32. 55 TexasDawg86 January 11, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    “There are 3 kinds of lies: 1) Lies, 2) Damned Lies, and 3) Statistics.”

    -Mark Twain


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